Matty Healy is the latest guest on Joshua Citarella’s podcast Doomscroll.The 1975 frontman sat down for two and a half hours of talk about pop culture, the media, the commodification of counterculture, and so on, and so forth.
It’s an expansive discussion, one that will probably have some people rolling their eyes, feeling like they’re trapped at a party with a blowhard.But I suspect some will take enjoyment from it.
Some of the sections in the clickthrough menu are titled “Hauntology,” “Ice-cream-ification,” and “Slow cancellation of the future.” In the final segment of the interview, beginning at the 2:21:34 mark, Healy discusses the ideas driving the 1975’s next album — or rather, he mostly talks about what he doesn’t want to address.Alluding to his brief romantic relationship with Taylor Swift, he says he’s not interested in writing about his own “lore” the way some artists do; he’d rather keep using his songs to analyze culture and popularize academic subjects that interest him: It’s possible to receive those words as an implied critique of Swift’s The Tortured Poets Department, which was hyper-focused on her own lore and which featured many songs widely assumed to be about Healy.
Even if he didn’t intend it as shade, it seems fair to assume we won’t be getting Healy’s side of the story on the next 1975 LP.The full chat between Healy and Citarella is viewable below.
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